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Total Cholesterol < 150 And LDL < 70?
2 Sep 2021
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Through lifestyle changes, should we target Total Cholesterol (TC) < 200 to prevent heart attacks? Or should we target TC < 150? And what kind of LDL is desirable? What's the reasoning?
CDC: Desirable Cholesterol Numbers

Guidelines by CDC (Center for Disease Control), USA are summarized below. These are followed by the vast majority of doctors and heart associations.

Source: Getting Your Cholesterol Checked (CDC, 2020).
Whole Food Plant-Based (WFPB) docs argue that our cholesterol numbers should be much lower than CDC guidelines above to protect us from heart attacks. Let's see why.

Clinical Guidelines

2019 ESC/EAS Guidelines for the management of dyslipidaemias: lipid modification to reduce cardiovascular risk: The Task Force for the management of dyslipidaemias of the European Society of Cardiology (ESC) and European Atherosclerosis Society (EAS) by Mach et al, European Heart Journal, Volume 41, Issue 1, 1 January 2020, Pages 111–188 mentions:

Ideal risk factors are non-smoking, total cholesterol (TC) ≤ 4 mmol/L (≤ 155 mg/dL), and SBP ≤120 mmHg.

2018 AHA/ACC/AACVPR/AAPA/ABC/ACPM/ADA/AGS/APhA/ASPC/NLA/PCNA Guideline on the Management of Blood Cholesterol: A Report of the American College of Cardiology/American Heart Association Task Force on Clinical Practice Guidelines by Grundy et al, Circulation, June 18, 2019, Vol 139, Issue 25 mentions:

"US population studiesS2.1.2-1,S2.1.2-2 suggest that optimal total cholesterol levels are about 150 mg/dL (3.8 mmol/L), which corresponds to an LDL-C level of about 100 mg/dL (2.6 mmol/L). Adult populations with cholesterol concentrations in this range manifest low rates of ASCVD.S2.1.2-3"

WHO publication: Comparative Quantification of Health Risks: Global and Regional Burden of Disease Attributable to Selected Major Risk Factors by Lawes et al, 2004, World Health Organization, Chapter 7 (pages 391—496).
Another excerpt from WHO publication:

"A theoretical-minimum-risk distribution of cholesterol (i.e. one that would yield the lowest population risk of adverse health outcomes) was taken as 3.8 standard deviation 0.6 mmol/l (usual) for all age, sex and subregional groups. The main basis for this estimate was the level of cholesterol down to which epidemiological relationships with cardiovascular disease outcomes are observed, and clinical trial data showing benefits from cholesterol lowering among those with below-average cholesterol levels. This theoretical minimum was also consistent with the levels of cholesterol in populations with little cardiovascular disease."

Note: 3.8 mg/dL is 147 mmol/L.

WFPB Docs: Ideal Cholesterol Numbers

At offset 4:05 in this talk, Dr Steven Lome reminds us:

[In the Framingham Heart Study], "total cholesterol was between 150-200 mg/dL in 35% of the patients with heart attacks."

Dr Lome explains:

Source: Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease (20 mins, 2019) by Dr Steven Lome.

The targets above, nameley, TC < 200 and LDL < 70 are for 'primary prevention' — in other words, to prevent any heart attacks at all. These targets become stricter for 'secondary prevention' — to prevent future heart attacks if we already have experienced one before.

Why do these targets for TC and LDL make sense? Let's see how different WFPB doctors explain it.

Dr Caldwell Esselstyn

Research paper: In Cholesterol Lowering, Moderation Kills, Cleve Clinic J of Med 2000 August; 67 (8): 560-564. This paper explains why total cholesterol < 150 is desirable.

Source: Everything in Moderation? Even Heart Disease? (3 mins, 2015). The graph is from this research paper: Changing the Treatment Paradigm for Coronary Artery Disease by Esselstyn CB Jr., The Am J of Cardiology 1998, November 26;82(10B):1T-4T.

The graph above provides a visual explanation of why total cholesterol < 150 is being encouraged by WFPB docs. In Moderation Kills (2018), Dr Greger has this commentary:

However, as Dr. Esselstyn wrote in the Cleveland Clinic Journal of Medicine, in regard to cholesterol lowering, moderation kills. “Even if all Americans kept their total cholesterol below 200 mg/dL, as recommended by the American Heart Association, millions would develop coronary artery disease.” Strong evidence shows we need to keep our total cholesterol under 150 mg/dL in order to stem the American epidemic of coronary artery disease, our number-one killer. What kind of evidence? In many cultures, coronary artery disease is practically unheard of when total serum cholesterol levels are under 150 mg/dL. In the United States, the famous Framingham Heart Study demonstrated that few of those with levels below 150 mg/dL developed heart disease, and none died from it.

In my video Everything in Moderation? Even Heart Disease? you can see the data from a 26-year follow-up of the Framingham Heart Study comparing the cholesterol levels of people who get heart attacks and the cholesterol levels of those who don’t. The study suggests that because we now know that 35% of heart attacks occur in people with total cholesterol levels of 150-200 mg/dL, a target level of only 200 mg/dL guarantees that millions of U.S. citizens will die from coronary artery disease.

Dr Steven Lome
(20 mins, 2019) Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease

An excellent, information rich video. Please visit offset offset 4:05 of the video for discussion of cholesterol levels.

Dr John McDougall

In the article Track Your Progress, Dr McDougall says:

Cholesterol: If your level is above 180 mg/dl, you should consider it a warning sign of potential circulatory problems. Ideal is below 150 mg/dl. Sometimes results are broken down into HDL ["good"] and LDL ["bad"] cholesterol levels, but I feel total cholesterol is the most significant.

Dr Greger on Total Cholesterol

Dr Greger videos that reinforce the idea that TC < 150 is desirable.

(2010) Eliminating the #1 Cause of Death

(4 mins) Transcript. A compelling video by Dr Greger. It narrates the position taken by Dr William Clifford Roberts who has authored over 1,300 scientific publications (a mind-boggling number). In addition, he has written over a dozen books on cardiology and has been the Editor-in-Chief of American Journal of Cardiology for 25 years.

Dr Roberts explains that cholesterol is the only risk factor (not one of many but "the" risk factor). What kind of cholesterol numbers does Dr Roberts recommend to minimize heart disease risk? Please see the next video for details.

(2011) Heart Attacks & Cholesterol: Purely a Question of Diet

(1 min) Transcript. Dr Greger's summary: "" An excerpt:

In an editorial last year, the editor-in-chief advocated for an LDL under 60; a total cholesterol under 150.

The editor-in-chief is actually Dr WC Roberts (American Journal of Cardiology) who has authored over 1,300 scientific publications (a mind-boggling number). In addition, he has written over a dozen books on cardiology and has been the Editor-in-Chief of American Journal of Cardiology for 25 years.
(2021) How Low Should You Go for Ideal Cholesterol Levels?

(6 mins) Transcript. Dr Greger's summary: "Having a so-called normal cholesterol in a society where it's normal to drop dead of a heart attack isn't necessarily a good thing."

(2010) New Target Cholesterol

(2 mins) Transcript. Dr Greger's summary: "'Normal' cholesterol redefined." Excerpts:

The target is an LDL—the bad cholesterol—under 70; which means a total cholesterol around under 150. How do you do that? How do you get a total cholesterol of 150? Well, you could move to the planet of the apes. Or, just eat a strictly plant-based diet.

(2015) Everything in Moderation? Even Heart Disease?

(3 mins) Transcript. Excerpts:

Strong evidence showed we need to keep our total cholesterol under 150 to stem America's epidemic of coronary artery disease. What kind of evidence? Well, in many cultures, coronary artery disease is practically unheard of when total serum cholesterol levels are under 150 mg/dL. And here in the U.S., in the famous Framingham Heart Study, few of those with levels below 150 developed heart disease, and none died of it.

(2011) Heart Attacks & Cholesterol: Dying Under Normal Circumstances

(2 mins) Transcript. Excerpts:

The current official recommendation is to have a total cholesterol under 200. Over 240 is considered high; 200 to 239 borderline high; but under 200 is desirable. So you’d imagine that the average cholesterol of people who have heart attacks is 250, 300; somewhere in the high range—that’s where it’s dangerous, right?

Well, a major study was just published in the American Heart Journal this year. 65,000 people hospitalized with acute coronary syndromes, like myocardial infarctions—heart attacks—across 344 hospitals. Guess what their average cholesterol was on admission? 170.

(2014) When Low-Risk Means High-Risk

(5 mins) Transcript. This video explores this question: What does 'normal' mean? For example, what are 'normal' cholesterol levels? How is normal defined? It may be challenging to identify 'normal' when the vast majority of a population group is sick, which is (sadly) true for modern western populations. To define 'normal' for humans, we may sometimes have to look beyond modern populations and consider primitive cultures or rural populations, for example. Towards the end, Dr Greger gives the example of cholesterol levels to illustrate his point.

Also see What Does Normal Mean? for Dr Greger videos on normal blood pressure, normal lead levels, normal white blood cell count, normal bowel movements, ideal bmi and so on.

(74 mins, Dr Michael Greger)
Food as Medicine

Trancript. At offset 24:01 of this video, Dr Greger explains why total cholesterol < 150 is desirable.

(2010) Can Cholesterol Be Too Low?

(1 min) Transcript. Dr Greger's summary: "The connection between cancer and cholesterol."

Dr Greger on LDL

(2016) What's the Optimal Cholesterol Level? An excerpt:

The optimal “bad cholesterol” (LDL) level is 50 to 70. Accumulating data from multiple lines of evidence consistently demonstrate that that’s where a physiologically normal LDL level would be. That appears to be the threshold above which atherosclerosis and heart attacks develop. That’s what we start out at birth with, that’s what fellow primates have, and that’s the level seen in populations free of the heart disease epidemic. One can also look at all the big randomized controlled cholesterol lowering trials.

Videos by Dr Greger:

(2019) Optimal Cholesterol Level

(4 mins) Transcript: here. Excerpts:

The optimal cholesterol level, the optimal “bad cholesterol” LDL level, is 50 to 70. Accumulating data from multiple lines of evidence consistently demonstrate that that’s where a physiologically normal LDL level would be. That appears to be the threshold above which atherosclerosis and heart attacks develop.

That’s what we start out with at birth, that’s what our fellow primates have, that’s the level seen in populations free of the heart disease epidemic, but we can also look at all the big randomized controlled cholesterol-lowering trials.

Dr Greger explains for those of us who have already experienced a heart attack may need to push their LDL levels even lower (< 30) than those who are preventing the first one (< 55). This is 'secondary prevention' vs 'primary prevention'.

Companion article: What's the Optimal Cholesterol Level? (2016)

(2020) Does Cholesterol Size Matter?

(5 mins) Transcript. Dr Greger's summary: "How do American Egg Board arguments hold up to scientific scrutiny, such as the concept that large fluffy LDL cholesterol is protective compared to small, dense LDL?"

(2011) Heart Attacks & Cholesterol: Agribusiness Sees It Differently

(2 mins) Transcript. Excerpts:

The level of LDL cholesterol in our blood—our “bad” cholesterol—may be the single most important indicator of heart disease risk, and is, therefore, the primary target of both drug and diet therapy. Your doctor will likely tell you that anything over 130 is high; anything under 130 is optimal, or near optimal. But that’s what most people hospitalized for heart attacks had circulating in their bloodstream. 

Notes one of the investigators on this study: “Almost 75 percent of heart attack patients fell within [the] recommended targets for LDL cholesterol, demonstrating that the current guidelines may not be low enough to cut heart attack risk…” Close to half had “optimal” levels, though I’m not sure their grieving spouses and orphaned children will take much comfort in that fact.

So, we have to drop our cholesterol even lower than so-called “optimal.”

(2011) Heart Attacks & Cholesterol: Purely a Question of Diet

(1 min) Transcript. Dr Greger's summary: "" An excerpt:

In an editorial last year, the editor-in-chief advocated for an LDL under 60; a total cholesterol under 150.

The editor-in-chief is actually Dr WC Roberts (American Journal of Cardiology) who has authored over 1,300 scientific publications (a mind-boggling number). In addition, he has written over a dozen books on cardiology and has been the Editor-in-Chief of American Journal of Cardiology for 25 years.
(2010) New Target Cholesterol

(2 mins) Transcript. Dr Greger's summary: "'Normal' cholesterol redefined." Excerpts:

The target is an LDL—the bad cholesterol—under 70; which means a total cholesterol around under 150. How do you do that? How do you get a total cholesterol of 150? Well, you could move to the planet of the apes. Or, just eat a strictly plant-based diet.

(2021) Can Cholesterol Get Too low?

(7 mins) Transcript. Dr Greger's summary: "Why might healthy lifestyle choices wipe out 90 percent of our risk for having a heart attack, whereas drugs may only reduce risk by 20 to 30 percent?" Excerpts:

If you’re getting treating with drugs later in life, you may have to get your LDL under 70 to halt the progression of coronary atherosclerosis, but if we start early enough, young enough, it may be sufficient to just lower LDL cholesterol down to 100 mg/dl, which should be attainable for most people. That’s consistent with country-by-country data that suggested heart disease would bottom out at a population average of about 100. But that’s if you can keep it down your whole life.

If you’re just using drugs late in life to try to stop the progression of your disease, you have to get your LDL lower than 70, and if you’re trying to reverse a lifetime of bad food choices, you don’t get to zero until about an LDL of 55. And if your heart disease is so bad you’ve already had a heart attack but you’re trying not to die of another one, ideally you might want to push your LDL down to about 30. Once you get that low, not only would you prevent any new atherosclerotic plaques, but you’d also help stabilize the plaques you already have so they’re less likely to burst open and kill you.

(2021) Are PCSK9 Inhibitors Safe and Effective?

(5 mins) Transcript. Dr Greger's summary: "Those with genetic mutations that leave them with an LDL cholesterol of 30 live exceptionally long lives. Can we duplicate that effect with drugs?"

Dr Peter Rogers
(5 mins, 2021) What To Know About Cholesterol by Dr Peter Rogers

An awesome, fast-paced, information rich video. This video explains why Total Cholesterol < 150 is desirable.

Other Doctors
(28 mins) What Is The Healthiest Cholesterol Level To Prevent Disease?

Dr Caldwell Esselstyn, Dr Pam Popper, Dr T Colin Campbell and Dr Kim Williams respond to a panel question.

Optimal Cholesterol Levels?

WHO publication:

Comparative Quantification of Health Risks: Global and Regional Burden of Disease Attributable to Selected Major Risk Factors by Lawes et al, 2004, World Health Organization, 391—496.

This publication recognizes that low levels of Total Cholesterol < 150 are found in several rural and so-called 'primitive' cultures worldwide (3.8 mmol/L corresponds to 147 mg/dL):

In the blood pressure and cholesterol assessment, a theoretical minimum-risk exposure distribution with a mean of 115mmHg for systolic blood pressure and 3.8mmol/l for total cholesterol (each with a small standard deviation) were used (Ezzati et al. 2002). This distribution corresponds to the lowest levels at which the dose-response relationship has been characterized in meta-analyses of cohort studies (Chen et al. 1991; Eastern Stroke and Coronary Heart Disease Collaborative Research Group 1998; MacMahon et al. 1990; Prospective Studies Collaboration 1995). Further, these levels of blood pressure and cholesterol are consistent with levels seen in populations which have low levels of cardiovascular disease, such as the Yanomamo Indians (Carvalho et al. 1989) and rural populations in China (He et al. 1991a, 1991b), Papua New Guinea (Barnes 1965; Carvalho et al. 1989), and Africa (Mann et al. 1964).

AHA / ACC Clinical Guidelines for Cholesterol Lowering:

2018 AHA/ACC/AACVPR/AAPA/ABC/ACPM/ADA/AGS/APhA/ASPC/NLA/PCNA Guideline on the Management of Blood Cholesterol: A Report of the American College of Cardiology/American Heart Association Task Force on Clinical Practice Guidelines by Grundy et al, Circulation, 139(25); Nov 2018.

A quote from this publication:

"US population studies[S2.1.2-1,S2.1.2-2] suggest that optimal total cholesterol levels are about 150 mg/dL (3.8 mmol/L), which corresponds to an LDL-C level of about 100 mg/dL (2.6 mmol/L). Adult populations with cholesterol concentrations in this range manifest low rates of ASCVD. [S2.1.2-3]"

What's going on? Citation [S2.1.2-1] refers to MRFIT trial. Citation [S2.1.2-2] refers to Framingham Heart Study. Both of these point at Total Cholesterol < 150 being "optimal". Citation [S2.1.2-3] refers to the WHO publication above, which explains that such low Total Cholesterol are found in certain rural and so-called 'primitive' cultures worldwide.

… so would it make sense to study these rural and so-called 'primitive' cultures? Would it make sense to mimic their lifestyle, especially their dietary habits, to push total cholesterol levels down to their optimal values (that is, Total Cholesterol < 150)? Yes! But that's not the approach taken in the clinical guidelines. The clinical guidelines mention these rural populations and so-called 'primitive' populations in just one sentence, and focus on drugs for cholesterol lowering.

What approach did Dr Esselstyn take? He studied, "What exactly do these populations eat? Maybe if we eat like them, we could lower our Total Cholesterol levels down to 150 or lower!" And luckily, he succeeded, thereby offering an alternative to drugs. However, his approach entails adoption of super strict Whole Food Plant-Based guidelines. These super strict guidelines may appear daunting to many individuals but they bear fruit!

HDL Numbers

What should be our target HDL numbers if we follow Whole Food Plant-Based guidelines? See Can HDL Drop With WFPB?

The Tyranny Of Cholesterol Numbers

Should we focus on cholesterol numbers or diligently following a Whole Food Plant-Based diet? Dr Klaper offers his perspective: The Tyranny Of Cholesterol Numbers.

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